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Drawing Down the Moon: The official website

Steve Patterson's new movie Drawing Down the Moon, which has been on it's way to the small screen for some time now, has finally arrived and we spoke with Steve about the long road that has brought him to the point of having his work viewed by those for whom it was made.....the movie fan wherever they may live. Steve talks about some of his artistic influences and why it took so long for Drawing Down the Moon to make it into your hands. The film has been screened for a few Pagan groups in California and the buzz has been generally positive. So grab your popcorn and your favorite soda and check out Steve Patterson in this TWPT exclusive interview. Enjoy!

 

 

Drawing Down the Moon: The Movie
TWPT Talks to Steve Patterson
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TWPT: Tell me how you got started in the movie business? Is this a recent change of direction in your career or has the desire to work in movies been there all along?

SP: I have worked in the film and video business for eighteen years. Till now I earned my living by making educational and promotional films and videos.

If you want to know the history of my development as a filmmaker, I'll try to condense it for you. I've wanted to be a writer since I was in grade school. When I was very young I wrote comic book scripts and stories based on my favorite characters. I read a lot -- particularly science fiction and fantasy. I wanted to become a storyteller myself.

I also always loved movies of all kinds. I began to read a lot about how movies were made, and I naturally developed an interest in directing, since the writer and director are the principal "storytellers" for a movie.

In high school I discovered the joy of acting in theatre and working with other actors. My interests combined as I realized I could fuse my love for writing, acting, and directing by becoming a filmmaker. After all, making movies is one method of telling stories.

I decided to attend college for filmmaking. I went to Penn State and graduated in 1982 with a Bachelor of Artis in Film Production.

While I was "paying my rent" by writing and directing TV commercials, promotional videos, etc., I wrote scripts for movies. Iıve had interest from producers in my earlier scripts, but nothing actually went into production. I decided to make "Drawing Down the Moon" on a small budget, partially out of the impatience generated by having to depend on others to get my work produced.

TWPT: Whose influences are we likely to see in what you create behind the camera?

SP: My favorite director as I was growing up was Stanley Kubrick with films like 2001,A Clockwork Orange, and Dr. Strangelove.

Since the making of Aliens in 1986 I'd have to say my favorite director is James Cameron. I love the stories he told in Terminator and Terminator 2: Judgment Day, Aliens, and The Abyss. I also enjoyed that big boat movie of his (Titanic), but his science fiction stories are really what made me a fan of his.

I think in "Drawing Down the Moon" you'll see some influences from James Cameron (albeit on a much smaller-budgeted scale).

TWPT: Tell me how your latest project Drawing Down the Moon came to be?

SP: Back in the early 90s I was doing research about a controversial subject --repressed memories of ritualistic abuse. I wanted to write a script revolving around it. A lot of talk shows had been doing stories about people who were suddenly remembering that years ago, as children, they had been sexually abused by their parents and other adults in Satanic rituals.

I was in New York City doing some research and I went into an occult store called The Magickal Childe. As I was browsing through books, I found a great deal of interesting information about witchcraft and, specifically, Wicca. Wiccans were obviously interested in separating themselves from these "sexually abusing Satanists." (And it now appears that these supposed Satanic groups were actually just urban legends, since there isnıt a shred of evidence to prove they ever existed.) I found an informative handout in The Magickal Childe about Wicca that really caught my attention.

I became fascinated with the modern witchcraft movement and started reading a lot about it. The more I learned, the more intrigued I became. A story for a film gradually started to percolate in my brain about a modern day witch who moves to a small town and has to combat the prejudice she finds there.

I bought and read Margot Adler's terrific book "Drawing Down the Moon." A quote from the book really stood out to me as summing up several key concepts in the movie I wanted to write.

"The Witch, after all, is an extraordinary symbol -- independent, anti-establishment, strong, and proud. She is political, yet spiritual and magical. The Witch is woman as martyr; she is persecuted by the ignorant; she is the woman who lives outside society and outside society's definition of woman."

At the same time that I was doing research on Wicca I was growing increasingly tired of playing the usual game of getting films produced -- write a script, submit to an agent, get a producer or studio interested ... That whole process depended too much on other people.

I decided I wanted to make a small-budget film set in my home town, something my filmmaking partners and I could do ourselves on the small amount of money I could raise myself through business contacts.

And I realized that this "Wicca movie" I had in mind was the perfect film to make on a small budget.

TWPT: During your research you said that you read lots of books on the subject but did you ever seek out those who were on the path to get their input as well?

SP: I posted a notice on several Internet newsgroups in which I described the film and asked for guidance while I wrote the script. The response was overwhelming. I had volunteers from around the world. Since the lead character in our film is a woman I chose four women from different areas of the United States to serve as my consultants. They are Hilda Marshall (Columbine) from Massachusetts, Sue Nisivaco from Chicago, Jessa Lynch from the Washington DC area, and Teara Staples from the Northwest.

As I was writing I would email questions to them; all four responded quickly with their opinions and were incredibly helpful. Luckily, Columbine and Sue were then able to come to the set as we were shooting to guarantee authenticity.

TWPT: Have you had much reaction to the impending release of this film from the Wiccan/Pagan community? Has it been good, bad or indifferent?

SP: The response from the Wiccan/Pagan community has been overwhelmingly positive. In all about 500 Pagans and Wiccans have seen previews of the film as we were editing and finishing the sound mix. I passed out audience response forms at these gatherings and 90% of the reactions were highly favorable.

Of course you can't please everyone, so some people didn't like it. The one criticism I've gotten from a few Pagans is that they were expecting the film to be a little more "realistic." Our movie has no major special effects and it is based in present-day reality, but it does have a fantasy/fable quality to it. The Witch we portray is somewhat idealized; in fact some people have referred to her (and they meant this favorably) as "super-witch." Once you see the movie hopefully you'll understand what they meant.

TWPT: How did your film come to be called "Drawing Down the Moon" and does it have any relationship to the ritual that is referred to by that name?

SP: The ritual of drawing down the moon plays a significant role in the film. I loved the poetic sound of the ritual and thought it would be the perfect title for the film. Our movie is not, however, based on Margot Adler's book of the same name. Ms. Adler's book is non-fiction; our movie is entirely fictional. (Titles cannot be copywritten, by the way.)

TWPT: Does the film have a very overt spiritual content or is it hidden behind the storyline? To put it another way how dependent is the storyline on Wicca and how much do you go into the beliefs with your characters?

SP: The storyline is very dependent on Wicca. Because we were aiming for a large general viewership I knew I had to teach much of the audience a little about Wicca, so the film delves into the Wiccan belief system in some detail (but hopefully it never becomes "preachy").

I'd say the spiritual content is overt but is a natural part of the storyline. To a great extent the film is about religious tolerance and acceptance. I needed to be sure the audience understood Wicca so they could make an informed opinion. It was a bit of a challenge to put that spiritual belief system into an action-oriented story, but I think the film succeeds admirably.

TWPT: How many others besides yourself are working on this film, excluding the actors?

SP: We had a crew of about twenty for much of the shooting. Now that we are in post-production, only four other people are working on the film with me.

TWPT: Working on a small budget must have affected your timetable for making this film, how long has it been from start to finish and did you ever have any doubts about it being completed once you got under way?

SP: The small budget made a huge difference in the timetable for the film, in that we could only work on the film part-time while we did "normal" jobs to survive.

I wrote the script late in 1994 and early 1995. We shot in the summer of 1995. I edited the film from 1995 through a fine cut in 1997. Marketing and sound mixing took from 1997 till now.

Editing was very time consuming because I could only work on the film at night, when the editing facilities were sitting vacant. I put in hours on our film after working a full day as a video producer.

Sound mixing was also incredibly time consuming because we could only work during the facility's off hours. Legal affairs were protracted because we had to ask the Screen Actors Guild for an amendment to our contract, and the negotiations literally took a full year.

TWPT: In many ways in your role as writer/director/producer you are an author as well working from an original idea that you created. Do you think that it is easier to direct from a concept/story that was written by a screenwriter or one that you wrote yourself?

SP: I'm not sure "easier" is the right word, but I do think there are some advantages to directing a screenplay you have written yourself. I think very visually as I write, so I picture how I will direct the scene as I am writing it.

On the other hand, making a movie is a very collaborative endeavor. The writer, director, actors, cameraman, lighting designers (and many more) all contribute something substantial to the film. So I think there are some advantages to having a director interpret a script written by someone else.

There's no clear-cut answer as to which is easier or better.

TWPT: How difficult is it to write for the screen as compared to writing a novel?

SP: Again there's a not a simple answer here. Both art forms have their unique (and daunting) challenges.

But if I was pressed to choose which is "easier," I'd say it's easier to write for the screen. Because of time constraints you can't go into the detail that a novelist can and must. And the structure of a typical screenplay is a little formulaic (at least the way the Hollywood crowd teaches movie structure).

Of course screenwriting has its own unique challenges. Fitting believable characters and all the story elements you want to include in 90 to 120 minutes is a daunting task.

TWPT: Did your story survive intact from its original draft or has it gone through many changes during the process of shooting the film?

SP: There were a number of changes from the original draft, but they were mostly "fine tuning" adjustments. No major story elements changed.

Among the changes I did make after the first draft, most were suggested by Walter Koenig. Besides being a great actor Walter also has a very strong story sense. His input was invaluable.

TWPT: Was the project a cooperative project or did you as writer maintain control over the finished product? If not how were new ideas voiced and how did they find their way into the final script?

SP: I was able to maintain creative control of the film throughout production, editing, and completion.

I did incorporate some ideas that people suggested after watching previews of the rough cut of the film. These changes mostly involved scenes that seemed too fast, too slow, etc. I made some adjustments in editing to take their thoughts into account. The previews I conducted were very helpful and informative.

TWPT: Beyond the Wiccan/Pagan community, what kinds of marketing are you considering for your movie? Is there a specific audience that you are looking for and how are you going to reach them?

SP: Obviously Walter Koenig's fans represent a significant block of people that we want to reach. He has an international fan club based in the United Kingdom. The president of the club, Carole Heslop, loved the movie and is helping us promote it.

We feel the movie has wide potential appeal across a large audience. Of course we want to reach as many people as we can. Our distributor, Tapeworm Video Distributors (yes, they have a funny name, but they are well known and have been in business for 16 years), is confident the film will sell well to video rental stores. We are now in the middle of Tapewormıs big marketing push to make sales to video rental stores like Blockbuster, Hollywood Video, and all the "mom and pop" video stores across the country. Tapeworm has been sending out preview copies of the film and making presentations to the buyers for video rental stores. The people at Tapeworm have explained it will probably take two or three months for orders to start coming in, so we are now in the heart of that critical ordering period.

That's why we've been asking our friends to request "Drawing Down the Moon" at video rental stores. Our "friends network" makes up the heart of our grassroots marketing campaign.

Smaller independent films like ours face an uphill battle when trying to sell to video stores. Hollywood studios pressure video store owners to carry lots and lots of copies of the latest blockbuster so it will be "guaranteed in stock." Understandably these practices eat up the budgets of the video stores, and they then have little left for smaller independent films like ours. Customer requests can make a huge difference in the success of a small film like ours. If most video stores in the country carried just one rental copy of our film, "Drawing Down the Moon" would be a HUGE success.

So I'd like to ask your readers to request the movie at their local video rental store. Spreading the word about "Drawing Down the Moon" can help correct misconceptions about Paganism and Wicca (besides helping us out in our "grassroots marketing campaign").

Tapeworm feels the video will really stand out on video store shelves, so it should be a good rental title for store owners to carry.

When you request the film, just tell the store manager that you've heard it's a good action-adventure movie starring Walter Koenig from "Star Trek" and "Babylon 5," and that you think it'd be a great rental title for them to carry. If the store owner asks how to get hold of it (which he/she probably will) tell him/her it is being released by Tapeworm Video Distributors. In case the store owner needs a contact number, Tapeworm's phone number is 661-257 4904.

In case the manager tells you they buy their titles through a "video software supplier" like Ingram, Major Video Concepts, or Baker and Taylor, inform them that those companies are major clients of Tapeworm's and that Tapeworm will be supplying them with copies of the film. So if the store manager requests the film from his supplier, they'll be able to get it.

TWPT: Since this interview began you have gone into general release on your movie. How has the launch been going so far? Any surprises?

SP: Sales have gone very well since we released the film in mid-July. A lot of positive word of mouth has been generated by people who have seen the film. The Internet has been our best sales tool for reaching people.

As I said, we are in the heart of the crucial marketing period for our distributor, Tapeworm Video. We hope to start making major sales to video rental stores in the next few months.

TWPT: Do you have any idea as to what's next for Steve Patterson or are you so glad that you are finally done with this project that you won't be starting a new one anytime soon?

SP: Of course I have ideas for "what's next!" Making "Drawing Down the Moon" was one of the most exciting experiences of my life!

I am currently writing a science fiction "cyber-thriller" that will again star Walter Koenig. Walter enjoyed working with us on "Drawing Down the Moon" and is anxious to work with us again. He has also connected us with some other major actors from the sci-fi movie universe who liked the storyline of the new script and are planning to "sign on" with us. This new film should shoot in the spring of 2001.

TWPT: Any last comments for our readers about Drawing Down the Moon?

SP: Please request the movie at your local video rental stores. It could make a huge difference for us. Thanks for helping us out!

TWPT: Thanks for taking us behind the scenes of your movie project and we wish you the best of luck with your future endeavors.

 

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